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At 2+ years in Area 51 we have to close this proposal. Keep this proposal alive by restarting it. See discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/q/5798. – Robert Cartaino♦ Apr 11 at 21:41

closed as not a viable proposal by Robert Cartaino♦ Apr 11 at 21:40

This proposal will not result in a useful, productive, or viable Q&A site.

60 Example Questions (6 closed)

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added by oosterwal Feb 8 '11 at 22:50

As interesting as this question is, I would suggest that voters consider upvoting other questions. This would take us faster to the commitment phase. – Otavio Macedo Jan 25 at 15:31

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added by Jaime Soto Jan 18 '11 at 13:33

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added by Caspar Kleijne Jun 23 '11 at 6:05

	you need to say "u" to someone you don't know – long tom Feb 7 at 11:27
	You need to say "u" when speaking to someone of authority, e.g. a police officer or other (government) official, even if you know them. – derabbink Mar 6 at 10:05

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added by rightfold Jan 17 '11 at 12:32

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added by oosterwal Feb 8 '11 at 22:54

Eat your heart out: Tongbrekers – Hendrik Jan 31 at 11:37

I particularly like this one: 'De postkoetskoetsier poetst de postkoets met postkoetspoets op een postkoetspoetsdoek' – 11684 Feb 20 at 17:07

Achtentachtig prettige grachten. – Giorgio Apr 7 at 18:15

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added by Toon Krijthe Mar 23 '11 at 9:30

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added by Graham Sunderland Feb 4 '11 at 13:20

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added by Jaime Soto Jan 21 '11 at 19:32

I think this is on-topic. It offers a bit of language history and may point out subtleties to non-native speakers. – oosterwal Feb 8 '11 at 22:49

That was my intent - I wanted a question that related to the ij digraph. – Jaime Soto Feb 9 '11 at 14:23

Feijenoord with "lange ij" doesn't work very well internationally. They changed it to Feyenoord in 1971 after they won the Europe Cup 1 – Hendrik Jan 31 at 11:32

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added by oosterwal Feb 8 '11 at 22:58

When I've been offered it in Amsterdam, it was with the equivalent of an english "H" sound for both the G and the "ch" - "Hrols`h" if you will. – Marcin Nov 19 '12 at 16:40

@Marcin that is not correct (the first g is much closer to the Scottish ch in loch, and the last ch is not pronounced at all), but this page here is not the place for answers. Save those for the site when it goes live. – Mr Lister Nov 21 '12 at 20:43

I can't say I've ever heard a Scottish person pronounce "loch", but what I did hear in Amsterdam sounded exactly like I would pronounce "Hrols'h". The final "h" does not denote the same sound as the first "H", but the final sound in the word was not the same as the final sound in "Bols", so I would not say the "ch" is completely silent - there is a definite exhalation. – Marcin Nov 21 '12 at 20:52

As to not answering - I think it's no coincidence that this question garnered upvotes after being answered. The fact of answers illuminates the relevance and interest of the question. – Marcin Nov 21 '12 at 20:53

I disagree with the double-h explanation. In most areas in the Netherlands (possibly excluding Brabant/Limburg) you'll hear how the "g" is really a throat-scraping sound and the "sch" sounds like an s. People that make "sch" at the end of words sound like "sh" are forgotting our sch->s shift many years ago (e.g. Nederlandsch is just Nederlands nowadays). – asmodai Dec 10 '12 at 12:15

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added by Caleb Apr 12 '11 at 12:43

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added by Joubarc, edited by WikiSpeedia hang-around Dec 26 '11 at 19:34

But it is, though... – 11684 Nov 17 '12 at 19:05

I'm painfully aware of that :-) Keep in mind these are just example questions, not meant to be answered now. – Joubarc Nov 19 '12 at 8:31

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added by Joubarc Aug 13 '11 at 11:10

	When in doubt, use 'rooije'. ;-) – oosterwal Jan 28 at 18:58
	Huh? 'Een rooie huis' is ook fout volgens mij. Bovendien hoort daar (wederom volgens mij) ook geen 'j'. – 11684 Feb 19 at 14:41
	Merk op, deze vragen zijn voorbeeldvragen en hoeven nu niet beantwoord te worden. Spaar dat voor de beta. – Joubarc Feb 19 at 15:13
	Wie verft z'n huis nou ook rood. Gebruik een voor de hand liggende kleur zoals beige. Dan heb je dat probleem niet. – Mr Lister Feb 20 at 17:58
	Wie zegt dat het geverfd is? Er zijn toch ook rode bakstenen... – Joubarc Feb 20 at 20:35

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added by Marc-François Jan 17 '11 at 19:05

I'm not sure about this one: it can be looked up in any dictionary, so I'd say off topic as General Reference... – Cerberus Jul 7 '11 at 15:45

I still think it's a useful question, since it will likely end up into a discussion/explanation about split verbs. You could argue that this particular question is then way too specific; still it gets my upvote, since this will probably be how such questions will be asked on the site. – Rody Oldenhuis Dec 4 '12 at 9:17

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added by Aldwoni, edited by WikiSpeedia hang-around Dec 26 '11 at 19:34

Ik ben niet zeker of een 'waarom' zoals in deze vraag thuishoort bij de proposal. Dan kom je dichter bij linguistiek of taalgeschiedenis. – Wivani Sep 7 '11 at 11:12

Ik denk dat linguistiek of taalgeschiedenis ook on-topic zijn. Bij french.se is het ook zo, en ik vermoed dat het ook voor andere talen geldt. – Joubarc Jan 6 '12 at 6:00

Maar wel bent u tuinman. Leuk hè? – 11684 Nov 18 '12 at 9:00

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added by Joubarc Aug 13 '11 at 11:09

	You might want to fix the "ortograph" here to "orthography". – hippietrail Nov 7 '11 at 20:39
	Or use a real word - thanks. – Joubarc Nov 8 '11 at 18:40

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added by Joubarc Aug 13 '11 at 11:11

De verkleinwoorden met "ke" komen meer uit het België. Volgens mij is dat iets typisch vlaams. Het zou gewoon boekje of meisje moeten zijn. – Remy Strijker Jan 5 '12 at 18:27

Weet ik - maar let op, deze vragen zijn voorbeeldvragen en hoeven nu niet beantwoord te worden. Spaar dat voor de beta. – Joubarc Jan 6 '12 at 6:01

Besides, flemish (vlaams) and dutch are dialects. Same grammar, slightly different vocabulary. – Toon Krijthe Feb 29 '12 at 10:45

Similar grammar. – Marcin Jan 22 at 16:08

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added by hippietrail Aug 26 '11 at 7:50

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added by hippietrail Aug 26 '11 at 7:50

Definitely a seperate language. Frisian's would get very angry if you call it a dialect. I think it is even internationally recognized as such (Google) – Hendrik Jan 31 at 11:35

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added by hippietrail Aug 26 '11 at 7:51

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added by Stefto, edited by WikiSpeedia hang-around Dec 26 '11 at 19:35

You use "DIE" when you know exactly wich pen you mean. For Example the one he just took of your desk. You use "DE" when you don't know wich pen you mean. For example a new pen from stock. – Luc Prevoo Apr 3 at 12:49

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added by Marcin Nov 10 '11 at 11:26

	This can be looked up easily in about every Dutch dictionary. – 11684 Feb 19 at 14:43
	Can it? I mean, if there is a difference, I've yet to find it. And if there's none, then the question on why there are two different words to mean the same thing is interesting too. – Joubarc Apr 10 at 19:39
	It may be an interesting question, but I'm not sure whether it fits the Q&A format. Is it an answerable question or will it just provoke an open-ended discussion? – Gert Arnold Apr 11 at 12:55

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added by Alexander Serebrenik Jul 10 '12 at 15:26

Heh. You know. this one actually has a simple and straightforward answer. – Mr Lister Jul 18 '12 at 14:20

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added by Alexander Serebrenik Jul 11 '12 at 10:57

	or s? `stationsstraat`. – 11684 Nov 17 '12 at 19:13
	This is a non-question, it can easily be looked up at Vandale.nl – Ton Plomp Jan 25 at 16:24
	I don't agree with that, most dictionaries won't summarize the general rules (plural on purpose) on this question. @TonPlomp – 11684 Feb 19 at 14:39
	Not to mention that the fact you have to look it up most of the time, is interesting per se. I mean, the fact that the answer itself is partly '"there are no rules, look it up" is a very relevant thing we'd want to say. Plus, this is one of the topics which seems to confuse native Dutch speakers, so it's definitely worth considering. – Joubarc Apr 10 at 19:35

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added by bartlaarhoven Dec 29 '12 at 23:59

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added by Mr Lister Jul 18 '12 at 11:44

	It is a Dutch invention, so I think it comes from the fantasy of - if I could remember the name of the inventor of the bike now that would be really nice now... So I'd say this will be closed as impossible to answer. – 11684 Nov 17 '12 at 19:11
	According to Wikipedia, the inventor was Gian Giacomo Caprotti. But nogmaals, dit is niet de plaats om vragen te beantwoorden. Dan houden we geen vragen meer over voor de echte site! – Mr Lister Feb 20 at 18:01

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added by Berthilde Nov 15 '12 at 10:05

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added by Ville Sundberg Sep 10 '11 at 14:57

Do you mean the 'passive voice'? – 11684 Feb 19 at 14:44

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added by asmodai Dec 10 '12 at 13:22

	Nice question! As a native speaker, I can use them correctly, but I have no idea as to what the actual rule is. – 11684 Feb 20 at 17:16
	Als je die als Nederlander goed kunt gebruiken, dan ben je beter dan vele andere Nederlanders! – Mr Lister Feb 20 at 18:04

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added by Ville Sundberg Sep 10 '11 at 14:53

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added by asmodai Dec 10 '12 at 12:51

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added by Joubarc Aug 13 '11 at 11:08

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added by Martijn Pieters Jul 13 '12 at 8:11

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added by Marcin Nov 4 '12 at 23:45

Definitely an interesting question as well. Talking with people learning Dutch they tend to get confused at first. jullie - plural form of you, normal and possessive (jullie zijn klaar; dat is jullie bus) u - you, polite form (nowadays when written with capital tends to refer to polite form for a deity) uw - possessive form of u (e.g. dat is uw boek?) jij - (voiced) second person pronoun (e.g. jij staat vandaag achter de toonbank) je - unvoiced/softer/more intimate form of jij (e.g. ik hou van je); also used in the form of they (e.g. je zou wel gek zijn met dit weer naar buiten te gaan) – asmodai Dec 10 '12 at 12:22

@asmodai I don't agree with you on all those examples, but this is not the place to answer the question. Save it for the beta. – 11684 Feb 19 at 14:48

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added by Marcin Nov 11 '12 at 18:10

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added by Gert Arnold Nov 27 '12 at 23:05

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added by asmodai Dec 10 '12 at 13:00

This is a good one, but I used up all my upvotes. – Mr Lister Feb 20 at 18:05

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added by bartlaarhoven Dec 30 '12 at 0:03

Is there really such a big correlation between Dutch and Swiss German? To my knowledge there is a closer correlation between Dutch and Northern German dialects. – Giorgio Apr 7 at 18:31

This question is based on my personal experience only. But nevertheless, it seems that the Swiss German is in a similar situation as the Dutch; borrowing words not only from German but also from French or Italian, for example. I noticed that certain words (I have no example at the top of mind) are similar in Swiss German and Dutch, where the Germans have a completely different word for it... – bartlaarhoven Apr 8 at 8:15