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@lukasz why not just embed eidogo? that way we can actually submit variations – baudtack Aug 19 '10 at 18:33

@docgnome: I asked about the pictures because we can embedd them directly into the question. Embed eidogo? How? Will it show directly on the site? Just-a-link is not enough if we want this site to be successful. – Łukasz Lew Aug 19 '10 at 19:15

Strangely, shidogo is still up. Here's an example of how eidogo was used. shidogo.com/questions/5/is-this-corner-killable – baudtack Aug 19 '10 at 19:57

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added by samoz Jul 9 '10 at 14:40

Right... well, according to Kageyama, joseki are highly context-dependent. So, it's not a joseki picture, but a picture of an actual game position, right? Otherwise, why not use a joseki dictionary? – ixtmixilix Jul 31 '10 at 21:25

up vote 20 down vote

added by Łukasz Lew, edited by WikiSpeedia hang-around Jul 29 '10 at 16:23

	"this" should be a link: eidogo.com/#1qu8cBB5 – Łukasz Lew Jul 8 '10 at 7:28
	This question is quite broad... is there a way to make it a bit more specific? It's not so easy to see how this can be answered in short and concise Q&A style. – mafutrct Aug 11 '10 at 12:47

up vote 20 down vote

added by baudtack Jul 13 '10 at 1:13

	This is a Google question folks... A more proper question would be perhaps to ask whether the same game might have a different result if one or the other ruleset was used. – Nicholas Aug 15 '10 at 20:07
	Yeah, it is a google question. And the first hit should be on Go Exchange. :-) – baudtack Aug 16 '10 at 15:02

up vote 20 down vote

added by baudtack Jul 13 '10 at 1:13

This is a nice one. – Łukasz Lew Aug 9 '10 at 1:16

up vote 20 down vote

added by mafutrct, edited by WikiSpeedia hang-around Jul 29 '10 at 16:21

up vote 15 down vote

added by David Grellscheid Jul 21 '10 at 22:36

	Certainly a good question in itself, but very close to "What is the best way to learn/teach Go rules?" – mafutrct Jul 27 '10 at 9:44
	This one is even better than "What is the best way to learn/teach Go rules?" as it is more specific and easier to answer. – Łukasz Lew Jul 27 '10 at 10:58
	Indeed. I moved my great-on-topic-example vote. – mafutrct Jul 27 '10 at 11:28
	BTW. I am interested in the answer today!. What do you do in first 2 h ? – Łukasz Lew Aug 9 '10 at 1:18
	2h is very little, maybe just basic rules such as playing on intersections, liberties, atari, ko, not allowed moves and two eyes as a obvious consequence of all the previous as an ending :) – Anonymous Aug 12 '10 at 23:18

up vote 10 down vote

added by mafutrct Jul 29 '10 at 12:35

	wow, we completely forgot about tsumego... I believe these are an integral part of the site. – mafutrct Jul 29 '10 at 12:36
	I agree completely. – Łukasz Lew Aug 3 '10 at 17:53

up vote 7 down vote

added by Łukasz Lew Jul 8 '10 at 7:30

	Learn aspect: What are the web resources? Teach aspect: should I show ladder example first or play a game? – Łukasz Lew Jul 8 '10 at 7:32
	And what about playing capture go? – Nicholas Aug 15 '10 at 20:09

up vote 7 down vote

added by Łukasz Lew Jul 8 '10 at 7:32

	I'd say on. It's related but it's also a very narrow niche. – baudtack Jul 13 '10 at 1:16
	Not a good example imo. It would be ok to add, but it's not a core topic. – mafutrct Jul 21 '10 at 11:35
	Yes, it's on-topic. We'd just need a tag for questions like this -- where to buy stones, boards, how to make boards, how to hold stones, etc... 'physical-related' or something like that. – ixtmixilix Jul 31 '10 at 21:26
	Yes, but this specific question is not a core topic. It should be "How to hold stones?" or "Where to buy equipment?" instead. – mafutrct Aug 4 '10 at 13:30
	Answer is readily available on Google. Since many of the questions are made off topic for this reason, then this question seems also to be off-topic. – Nicholas Aug 15 '10 at 20:08

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up vote 7 down vote

added by samoz Jul 15 '10 at 11:57

really nice question. More concreet would be nice, like: "Is it good to start a fight as soon as possible on 9H?" – Łukasz Lew Jul 18 '10 at 10:09

up vote 6 down vote

added by John Nicholas Jul 31 '10 at 20:58

	This is the sort of thing I was hoping people would ask on a site like this. – ixtmixilix Jul 31 '10 at 21:24
	this is good on-topic, but I don't have any votes left :) – Łukasz Lew Aug 2 '10 at 10:40

up vote 5 down vote

added by ianfuture Jul 13 '10 at 14:00

up vote 5 down vote

added by mafutrct Jul 15 '10 at 13:14

up vote 5 down vote

added by samoz Jul 16 '10 at 12:08

Why was this marked as not a good example? This is clearly on-topic... – samoz Jul 18 '10 at 4:09

Maybe it is too vague? Try something like "Which ladder breakers are most useful in this situation." And give a link to a go situation (make one on eidogo.com and use save-to-server option) – Łukasz Lew Jul 18 '10 at 10:06

now it became a good topic :) – mafutrct Jul 21 '10 at 11:37

up vote 4 down vote

added by Chew Terr, edited by WikiSpeedia hang-around Jul 29 '10 at 16:20

This is very specific, almost too much so. I think it would be better re-phrased as "What is the best introduction to probes," because a lot of online resources might be the best thing out there. – samoz Jul 21 '10 at 12:34

"Enclosure Josekis" by Takemiya Masaki can help you with some probes (for example 2-4 under the komoku shimari) – Anonymous Aug 12 '10 at 23:15

up vote 4 down vote

added by samoz Jul 15 '10 at 11:56

Good question. But more concreete example is needed. (you see there might be no good answer to this question) – Łukasz Lew Jul 18 '10 at 10:07

up vote 4 down vote

added by ixtmixilix, edited by WikiSpeedia hang-around Aug 19 '10 at 17:40

	"Play like Shodan" - Rin Kaiho 9 dan. Book for low kyu that comments three games with focus on main mistakes in thinking about go. 1 game 3k VS 4k, 2 game 1k VS 1k, 3 game 1d VS 1d – Anonymous Aug 12 '10 at 23:25
	Thank you, good samaritan. When StackExchange finally gives us the URL we go players deserve, I will make sure to ask this question on the actual site. – ixtmixilix Aug 13 '10 at 15:32

up vote 3 down vote

added by Jeff Elser Aug 10 '10 at 22:53

up vote 2 down vote

added by mafutrct Jul 14 '10 at 8:38

Lol@mafutrct, 'cuz I've gotten 'em off you. – ixtmixilix Jul 31 '10 at 20:54

up vote 2 down vote

added by mafutrct Jul 14 '10 at 8:38

	This is really nice. If you know any, please post ASAP. Here is one nice site: gocommentary.com – Łukasz Lew Aug 9 '10 at 1:20
	shidogo.com/questions/34/… – mafutrct Aug 12 '10 at 10:47

up vote 2 down vote

added by SolarBear, edited by WikiSpeedia hang-around Aug 19 '10 at 17:41

I like this... I love SO/MO, but believe it or not go is way better than programming or math, for this sort of reason. You can ask a general question and get very specific answers. – ixtmixilix Jul 31 '10 at 21:21

up vote 2 down vote

added by Shimari Jul 16 '10 at 15:17

up vote 1 down vote

added by Kyra, edited by WikiSpeedia hang-around Jul 29 '10 at 16:22

I'm sure a really bad Go player could be defeated by computer. – Cyclone Jul 13 '10 at 15:58

I know when I was first learning GnuGo kicked my butt over and over. – samoz Jul 13 '10 at 16:59

thanks. I wasn't even thinking about bad GO players. Didn't think they existed :D Anyway I edited the question to be better. – Kyra Jul 14 '10 at 14:49

Hey, shut up! GnuGo still beats me Q_Q – baudtack Jul 14 '10 at 19:32

Programs sometimes beat pros on even 9x9 and on 7H on 19x19. I.e. computers are around 1d on 19x19 – Łukasz Lew Jul 15 '10 at 9:32

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up vote 1 down vote

added by Nicholas Aug 12 '10 at 18:14

I voted this on-topic because the answer, indirectly, would improve people's go strategy. More clubs = more games = better players. – ixtmixilix Aug 13 '10 at 15:37

up vote 1 down vote

added by Nicholas Aug 12 '10 at 19:28

I think this hovers between on-topic and off-topic. Knowing who invented a specific joseki might help players, because the inventors of joseki are bound to be really amazingly good. However, it can probably be found on google. A way to change it to on-topic would be to include a JPEG of one of your actual games where you failed to play the joseki to your advantage, and ask players on the site what you did wrong. – ixtmixilix Aug 13 '10 at 15:39

up vote 1 down vote

added by Gordon Gustafson, edited by WikiSpeedia hang-around Aug 19 '10 at 17:36

for those of you who don't know: Chess programs can now defeat masters 10 times out of 10, but the best go programs often lose to experienced children. – Gordon Gustafson Aug 12 '10 at 21:36

I'm sure most of us know that, since Area51's is an offshoot of stackoverflow.com and serverfault.org -- nonetheless, I think this would make a good on-topic example because the answer would take us into go-strategic domains that may be useful to people's games – ixtmixilix Aug 13 '10 at 15:35

On the other hand, it will probably be useless for improving people's games. To improve people's games, there are many sites with Go problems, professional games records, reviews... These are guaranteed to help someone who had time to spend to improve his/her game. Discussing about abstract ideas may appeal to some, though I am not so sure it would improve their game. – Nicholas Aug 15 '10 at 20:00

While certainly very interesting, I think this should be off-topic. Or is there a different public opinion? I would not mind, really.... – mafutrct Aug 19 '10 at 12:02

up vote 0 down vote

added by Łukasz Lew, edited by WikiSpeedia hang-around Aug 19 '10 at 17:39

closed as off topic by Namida, mafutrct, user14107, Slartibartfast, Bsar5589 Aug 10 '10 at 12:16

This question does not relate to the topic of the proposal.
It was closed as part of an automated migration of off-topic to close votes on September 29, 2011.

Intended as off-topic. – Łukasz Lew Aug 2 '10 at 10:45

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added by ixtmixilix, edited by WikiSpeedia hang-around Aug 19 '10 at 17:39

closed as off topic by Łukasz Lew, Namida, mafutrct, Slartibartfast, James Tauber Aug 6 '10 at 15:05

This question does not relate to the topic of the proposal.
It was closed as part of an automated migration of off-topic to close votes on September 29, 2011.

you found some good examples of off topic questions – mafutrct Aug 4 '10 at 13:32

Thanks. I've got a few more handy (ie, WUZ SHUSAKU LIKE THE BEST PLAYR EVER, LOL???), though it doesn't look like we need them. – ixtmixilix Aug 5 '10 at 9:29

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added by grokus, edited by WikiSpeedia hang-around Aug 19 '10 at 17:37

I am out of votes, but I'm not sure I'd consider this on-topic. The answer won't improve people's go strategy, will it? So it might be a better question for a forum. – ixtmixilix Aug 13 '10 at 15:35

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added by Svante Aug 10 '10 at 21:54

closed as off topic by Christian, Nicholas, Łukasz Lew, ixtmixilix, gizeh Aug 18 '10 at 4:09

This question does not relate to the topic of the proposal.
It was closed as part of an automated migration of off-topic to close votes on September 29, 2011.

This is a good example of off-topic, I think. But I've used my five votes. Anyway, all we need is 20 users to move on to planning the website. – ixtmixilix Aug 10 '10 at 23:43

Good indeed. You can move your votes if you want, I did :) – Łukasz Lew Aug 12 '10 at 18:45

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added by Nicholas Aug 12 '10 at 18:37

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added by Nicholas Aug 12 '10 at 18:37

I don't have any more votes (people who do should vote for the off-topic questions and on-topic questions that have already gathered votes, so that we can move on to StackExchange's next hurdle in the URL-assignment process), but if I did, I'd vote this off-topic. The reason why is that it does not relate directly to go strategy, hence will not improve people's games. Plus the answer is already on Google. – ixtmixilix Aug 13 '10 at 15:37

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added by Nicholas Aug 15 '10 at 20:04

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added by katesmeow Aug 16 '10 at 18:18

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added by nate451 Aug 16 '10 at 20:03

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added by manveru Aug 19 '10 at 7:24

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added by manveru Aug 19 '10 at 7:25

up vote -1 down vote

added by ixtmixilix, edited by WikiSpeedia hang-around Aug 19 '10 at 17:37

closed as off topic by Łukasz Lew, Namida, mafutrct, Slartibartfast, baudtack Aug 7 '10 at 3:29

This question does not relate to the topic of the proposal.
It was closed as part of an automated migration of off-topic to close votes on September 29, 2011.

up vote -1 down vote

added by grokus Aug 10 '10 at 21:31

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added by manveru Aug 19 '10 at 7:31

The answer is obviously "Yes it is playable but of course it is a different game from traditional openings". The important part would be how it is different, but that's a very vague question that probably is not a very good example question. – mafutrct Aug 19 '10 at 12:05